There's been a wee flurry of activity lately on social media, from a handful of people defending Ravelry against complaints about the accessibility problems on that site. All saying, in some way, that the problems aren't real, or don't matter, or those harmed are just being mean, etc.
These posts all seem to employ one or more of seven easily disprovable fallacies. So I'm going to go through all of those and show why they're fallacies, in the hope that it will help. Either because it makes people experiencing problems feel that they're not alone, or because it will raise awareness that the problem exists, or - ideally - because it will change hearts and minds. (Hey, hope springs eternal.)
Fallacy #1: People are only complaining because they hate Ravelry
This is laughably untrue. Seriously, it doesn't take a lot of effort to discover that the people upset about the problems loved Ravelry, loved using it, and were happily promoting it as a fantastic website before the redesign dropped.
I love @Ravelry, but I know the redesign is hurting people. It's not just aesthetics: if people can't access the site without suffering vision issues, migraines and worse, the design needs to be reassessed. Please don't shut your users out! https://t.co/4FkcQZoa00
— Lorna (@florilegia) June 27, 2020
The communications from Ravelry on this issue have been - in the most generous of interpretations - very poorly thought out. I'm hugely disappointed, for myself, and for everyone who has used and relied on and come to love the website and the services it offers. 3/...
— Kate Atherley. Vaxxed, still masked. (@kateatherley) July 29, 2020
I am so incredibly disappointed, hurt and angry with the team right now.
— Emma Plays Green! π΄σ §σ ’σ ·σ ¬σ ³σ Ώ π«π· πͺπΊ (@Lloer) June 25, 2020
I have been a member since about 200, my membership no is around 500, to give you an idea. Until about 18 mths ago, I was on Rev several hrs a day, every day but I needed to take an extended break for /1
Y’all. It’s bad enough that the lady who created the magic wizard world is transphobic. Please make it true that the team behind the amazing inclusive online yarn community I love isn’t willing to throw disabled users under the bus. 1/2
— BuenaSuerte π€π€❤️π§‘πππππ³️⚧️π³️π (@Diversiply) June 27, 2020
I'm very disappointed to hear that Ravelry has bungled a site redesign. I've always held them up as a stellar example of a well designed site by/for members of its own community (the other big example being AO3). https://t.co/crZS8Ygjqo
— Kell Compost Witch (@CompostWitch) June 18, 2020
After 11 years, I deleted my account because Ravelry doesn't care about disabled people.
— akareilly (@akareilly) April 1, 2021
I am disappointed that a team that cares so much about progressive causes, that made me so happy when they took a stand against fascists and sexists, failed here. #RavelryAccessibility
I loved your site but I have to say I am so disappointed. I find the site hard to read and headache inducing and I do not have a disability where it is outright dangerous. The icons are a cutesy mess. And all of this is without addressing the Cassidy/her sister issue. Do better.
— Elle (@gleefulreader) August 4, 2020
This. I love you Ravelry, but this has gone on too long. Please fix it ASAP.
— JulieG (@stringy) June 27, 2020
Still with the icons people keep telling you don't work for them. Still no meaningful commitment to actual accessibility. To say I'm disappointed in a site that I've been praising to high heaven for a decade would be an understatement. Do better.
— Christina D (@akasha111182) July 24, 2020
This is gutting. I love and supported @ravelry. Now it's like the team is showing ppl who can't use their new version the door. I don't get it from them. Yet another place where disability is not accepted. Please prove me wrong and change things for the best, for all of ravelers.
— Jess Sylvie (@scotjess3) June 25, 2020
Tweets like this are legion, they're not hard to find. The people complaining did not start with a hate-on for Ravelry. In fact, when the redesign was first launched, the prevailing mood among those negatively impacted was that although things were very bad, they were absolutely confident that Ravelry would listen to them and fix the problems just as soon as possible. (And that was my feeling, too!)
One common theme I've also seen among those defending Ravelry is to conflate those concerned about accessibility with another group with possibly malicious motivations. But this is also demonstrably untrue. I wrote a thread on Twitter to debunk it:
"Isn't this accessibility thing just a conspiracy among white supremacist types who are ticked off that Ravelry banned support of Trump to make the site a safe space?" - a thread:
— Kathleen Sperling (@wipinsanity) April 5, 2021
None of this stems from hatred, or some bizarre desire to 'bring Ravelry down'. Those who are complaining are doing so because there is a legitimate problem. Which dovetails very nicely into...
Fallacy #2: Websites can't really cause these problems
I've provided resources to debunk this notion previously, but here we go again.
- Web accessibility for seizures and physical reactions
- Epilepsy and staying safe online
- Why do some images cause seizures while others do not?
- Can Stripes Trigger Migraines—and Even Seizures?
- Visual contrast processing in migraine
- Typical Lateral Interactions, but Increased Contrast Sensitivity, in Migraine-With-Aura
Note that throughout these pieces, it's not just a case of people's responses to animations, it's also about certain visual patterns, e.g. stripes, high contrast, etc.
From my reading so far, it sounds like scientists aren't sure yet exactly why certain visuals can trigger these physical impacts, and it certainly doesn't sound like it's a widespread problem affecting the majority of the population. But it very clearly is a problem, and does genuinely impact people.
If you're interested in reading about some of the specific problems with the new design, this thread is long but has a lot of detail:
"Isn't #RavelryAccessibility fixed now? Because doesn't @ravelry know a lot about accessibility? And anyway, can't everyone just use a Stylish skin or something?" - a thread in multiple parts.
— Kathleen Sperling (@wipinsanity) April 2, 2021
Short answer: No, no, and no.
Fallacy #3: Websites are websites; if you can use one site, there's no reason you can't use Ravelry
Fallacy #4: I don't have a problem with Ravelry, so anyone who says they do must be lying
As we've seen, these problems do not affect every single person. But there have been loads of first-hand accounts saying that yes, it genuinely is a problem. Such as:
M managed to fit into a baby dress I made for a friend's kid a decade ago, though it fit like a cute tunic. I thought to look up the baby dress on Ravelry to decide if I could upsize it. Just being on my own pages for ~15 minutes and I already have a migraine. π
— Di Knitnfrog π§Άπ§΅π¦ (Mrs. W2W) (@KnitNFrog) March 3, 2021
I left way back, because I got the weird eye/head feeling that meant it was triggering a migraine - and, post-menopause, I had almost ‘grown out’ of migraines. I had been a daily visitor for years. Their total disregard upset me too.
— Loraine ππ· (@macknitty) February 25, 2021
My job involves staring at the internet 40 hours a day and I have never had a site give me eye strain as fast as Ravelry did. Seriously.
— woolymoolymoo (@woolymoolymoo) July 11, 2020
Yikes. I immediately got a shooting pain behind my eyes. #RavelryAccessibility @ravelry #knittertwitter #knit #knitter #knitting
— Gina Jones (@ginafranklin) February 19, 2021
I can, but not easily, I've got to do a weird cross eyed thing and the image dips in rather than sticks out, Ravelry gives me that same swoopy feeling that looking at that image does, like my mind knows some thing is there but can't see it
— Bex (@bexbagel) February 18, 2021
Got a migraine from rav and felt it pulling my eyes everywhich direction. Can’t see the magic eye image. Maybe I’m not doing it right but its starting to hurt
— androgynous SpaceCat (@LoreChirps) February 19, 2021
when Classic goes away next month i will be *unable to use @ravelry safely*. i’m leaving my profile active because that gives me editorial control over my yarn listings, but i won’t be able to edit them without help. this is not something i’m choosing. #RavelryAccessibility https://t.co/WPSwWhrx5A
— lilith (@oldmaidenaunt) February 18, 2021
Just used @ravelry's new layout for the first time. It's given me serious vertigo. Now I know what everybody is taking about.
— Acorn Queen (@acorn_queen) January 13, 2021
I'm not making this up, nor am I just a random person adding to the shitstorm. Once they retire the old layout, I've got a problem.#RavelryAccessibility
Once upon a time I loved Ravelry, but due to #RavelryAccessibility issues, I've been cut out due to the harmful update. Haven't been able to use it, even since it's been "fixed."
— Foxes Foxes (@Sarasyn) January 12, 2021
We do not choose our disabilities. Instead those of us around us need to do better in accommodating.
Went from thinking "oh I feel bad when I use this website I like to use, guess it's just me!" to realizing #RavelryAccessibility knew there was a problem from the hundreds of people telling/asking about it, and they've just been ignoring it
— 100 Ferrets in a Trenchcoat (I smell horrible) (@ehnyay) January 1, 2021
Got whiplash on top of the migraine
I could do this all day. This is just a sampling.
Bottom line, people are different from one another. They have different health issues, their bodies work in different ways, etc. Your lack of a problematic experience does not negate someone else's problematic experience.
Fallacy #5: It's just a few whiners who don't like change
If you've read this far, you'll have seen many individual examples of people who are being hurt by the new design (and hold on to your hat, there are plenty more to come!) - we are clearly not talking about just a few outliers.
But just to slam that point home, here are some stats from a survey which was done to try and gauge how many people were affected by the NuRav problems. Almost 2,000 impacted people reported their issues.
Don't be afraid to pull "Dr. Cathleen says so" when someone tries to pull some gaslighting bullshit.
— Dr. Cathleen Fry (read my pinned tweets) (@cefryber) June 16, 2021
In one survey entirely off rav:
1647 eyestrain
572 nausea
654 migraine
849 non-migraine headache
333 vertigo
13 seizures
1858 affected people
It's real.#RavelryAccessibility https://t.co/7uYZpGIIVs
And of course there's no way to know how many additional people have been negatively impacted who didn't fill out the survey. That number of 1,858 affected people is just the starting point.
Now, of course the number of affected people represents a small percentage of the total size of Ravelry's audience. (In fact, I would hazard a guess that it aligns with the percentage of the general population who gets affected by bad contrast and striping patterns and whathaveyou.) But - and here is the crucial point - a small percentage of a massive number of people still represents a very large number of people! Thousands of people being harmed is NOT OKAY.
I would also point out that when a recent system bug messed with the group membership settings of a small percentage of Ravelry users, the Ravelry team immediately investigated and had it completely fixed within a matter of days. As I recall, the number of affected users in that instance was only 812. So, just in case anyone was thinking of presenting the argument that 1,858 people is not a big enough group to warrant Ravelry putting a priority on fixing their experience - clearly, it actually does meet that criteria; in fact, it exceeds it by at least a factor of about 2.3.
But not only is the number of people affected clearly not "a few", but it is absolutely not okay to frame them as "whiners". This problem is not trivial. This is not about the fact that something changed, as I explained in this thread:
"Isn't this #RavelryAccessibility thing just a conspiracy among people who are unreasonably angry at @ravelry that the colours have been changed?" - a thread:
— Kathleen Sperling (@wipinsanity) April 1, 2021
And further to this incorrect notion that 'not liking change' is to blame, you may also be interested in this thread, which posits that when users react negatively to a website changing, it's not actually change which is the culprit.
Users don't hate change.
— Jared Spool (@jmspool) April 4, 2018
• Users hate when you take control from them.
• Users hate when your change shows no value for them.
• Users hate when they’ve invested in learning your design, only for you to disregard that investment.
Users don’t hate change.
It’s you, not them.
Fallacy #6: Even if you are having problems with Ravelry, you can easily solve them just by changing your settings on the site
This is extremely untrue.
Now, Ravelry has indeed, since the redesign launch, introduced the ability for users to fiddle around with a number of different display settings, to try to improve their experience. But - and this is key - they don't always work. And to boot, one of them doesn't even exist anymore.
The one that's now gone is the "Classic Rav toggle", also referred to as "Classic mode" or just simply "Classic". This was implemented by Ravelry fairly shortly after the new look was discovered to be problematic (and honestly, was an admission in and of itself that the new design had serious issues). But it was temporary.
And ever since its introduction, it has been used to dismiss people who say they have problems with the new design. I've lost count of the number of people reporting - even recently! - that in reaction to saying 'NuRav hurts me,' they hear 'Just revert to the old look, what's the big deal.' Despite the fact that Ravelry discontinued this option THREE MONTHS AGO.
And even if they hadn't, this option never worked for everyone. No one understands why, but the Classic toggle was widely reported to not be the same experience as the original, pre-NuRav design. While the Classic toggle did allow many people to keep using Ravelry, it still caused harm for others:
That weird fake Classic skin didn't work for me at all and gave me migraines. It's been since June 2020.
— Tori Tyrrell (@tiboribi) April 5, 2021
It was established pretty quickly that "original" wasn't actually going back to the old code, and still caused a lot of people problems. So that makes sense.
— Dan the Gnome (@brewergnome) June 16, 2021
I’m fortunate that I haven’t experienced any seizures, but I figured out how long it takes Classic Mode to trigger a blackout migraine & now I set a timer in order to download patterns as needed. And that’s all I use Ravelry for anymore. I used to spend all day in the forums. π€·♀️
— Zanahoria12, B.A, B.A., M.A. (@Zanahoria12) February 24, 2021
I am so sad that I've lost access to Ravelry, but I don't need the migraine. Ever since NuRav I can last about 30-60 seconds before the migraine starts. 2-3 minutes if I used Classic, but even that ends the 31st. https://t.co/Tan3xBD7US for more details. #RavelryAccessability
— Sewicked (where did January & February go?) (@Sewicked) March 29, 2021
Aside from downloading my projects I've hardly touched Ravelry since their inaccessibility debacle started. Needed to check if I had a pattern, spent five minutes on classic Rav. Now feel sea sick with swimming vision and the start of a headache. Inclusivity my arse.
— gINger Knits (@GingerKnits) November 11, 2020
I had an ocular migraine after NuRav launch. When I heard Classic Rav was a thing, I tried again but couldn't use it for more than 15 minutes & now that's diminished to just a few minutes. Classic Rav'll be gone in March 2021. They ignore us all. I won't support them in any way.
— BirdieToldMe (@kaysaraahsaraah) November 3, 2020
Well finally downloaded my Ravelry data and pattern PDFs then deleted my account. I used classic mode but it’s weird I feel a bit sick to my stomach. Also kind of sad to leave something that was a huge part of my life at one time.
— Macon St. Hilaire (@MaconStStudio) October 7, 2020
Sorry, I'm not. I currently last seconds on Merino and Herdwick. I seem to manage minutes on Classic. I used to be able to spend hours there.They totally failed to take into account feedback about light sensitivity triggers.
— kaz (@LiterallyYarn) September 29, 2020
That makes me sad. I enjoy the GAL every year but @ravelry even on “classic” gives me headaches, so I’m not able to use it for long. Really hope you can find an alternative so that the GAL can be inclusive and accessible #RavelryAccessibilty
— Chris Mills, RD, MPH (She/Her) π¨π¦ in π©πͺ (@ChrisMillsRD) August 25, 2020
Again, this is just a sample, I could keep going. But let's get back to the other settings on the site that do still exist. Why can't people use those?
The good news is that there absolutely are people who are harmed by regular NuRav, but can use the site with certain settings changed - and that's fantastic! But just as absolutely, that's not true for everyone. Whether you're talking about Herdwick mode...
Dark mode on ravelry is too dark and bot Merina/Herdwick modes are blindingly too bright. Why oh why won't they offer the classic look????? Sigh, man I miss the rav that was :(
— amgoth2000 (@amgoth2000) April 18, 2021
Using Ravelry in my device settings night mode as opposed to their Dark Mode seems to work. Too bad I figured it out after migraine aura kicked in after reading 4 posts in Herdwick. That is posts, not threads. Posts.
— chalupacabra99 (@chalupacabra99) April 7, 2021
I didn't say that dark mode caused issues, but that's only because I'm too scared to give it a try. Original nurav + Herdwick both made me feel ill. Classic didn't but after switching to it I decided I no longer wanted to regularly use Ravelry.
— Mercury / Emily Anne Davies (@MercurialKnits) March 29, 2021
Tried #Ravelry again using Herdwick mode. I couldn't finish reading one page before I wondered Why am I getting a headache? Why am I nauseous? It's been months so guess nothing's fixed. #ravelryaccessiblity Back to #books .
— Ivy Englund (@IvyEnglund) January 29, 2021
I deleted last year. Fortunately I didn't depend on it for business. I did hear that there had been improvements so I tried again but deleted in a few days. I tried all but Classic Ravelry (because I knew it was going) and I got the same headaches and vertigo.
— Trichy Knitter (@zeedobson) April 1, 2021
I’m barely using Ravelry now, but I’ll be keeping mine set to classic until there is a more useable version. Right now I’m finding their default ‘merino’ and alternate ‘herdwick’ modes very hard to use without eye strain and headaches.
— El K (@PandoraKnits) September 18, 2020
Yeah, no @Ravelry. I’m not sure what “improvement” herdwick mode is cause it’s all so bright & too much white/negative space. Turning off responses here & on insta appears that you’re not really interested in listening.
— Persistent_Hippie (@resident_hippie) September 16, 2020
...Or whether you're talking about dark mode:
I happen to like the new layout. Had absolutely no problem with Ravelry doing it. But the fact is the light coloured ones start vertigo and the dark version a migraine for me. I don't want them to go back to the old version just fix the code so people aren't hurt.
— Jacquie Nex (@JacquieNex) July 9, 2021
Oof, I logged into @ravelry for the first time since they took away classic, because I had no other way to compare colorways on a yarn. Less than 5 minutes on dark mode, and my eyes are still twitching in anger.
— Kate (@ktsmurf) April 28, 2021
I wish anyone at Rav even gave a shit about #RavelryAccessibility
went on ravelry for just a few seconds to refind a pattern i forgot to bookmark and it was enough to start making me nauseous π @ravelry your dark mode is terrible
— William Arthur-Imperial Consort of Eerie, Indiana (@Wart_M) April 19, 2021
Jesus Christ @ravelry why can't you simply give us the option to go back to the classic theme ????
— CoffeeTrampTossBitch (@ByronLana) April 8, 2021
I was on the website for 2 minutes on DARK MODE and now I'm lying down after taking a pill for the raging migraine that bloomed.
I wouldn't say either of us are lucky. Neither Woolly or I can use Ravelry in any mode without consequences. Dark mode does not help me, not does an extra skin. Whatever mode I use, my limit onsite is a minute or two at most.
— kaz (@LiterallyYarn) April 7, 2021
I tried the dark mode yesterday. I think it was just around the 5 minute mark my migraines went ballistic. Doesn’t look like that will work for me. Sad, bc I really loved Ravelry.
— Becky L. (@becky_lax) April 1, 2021
Dark Mode is worse. It's an instant 'that hurts my eyes.' response.
— Sarah Dawn (@Sarah_Dawns) April 1, 2021
All of New Ravelry modes have this sensation of having a bad 'flicker' behind the screen, which is super, super, unpleasant. The style sheet gets rid of that for me, thank God.
Less than 3 minutes on Ravelry today and it felt like someone was stabbing ice picks into the back of my eyes. Tried the dark mode, still there.
— Serena (@SerenaExplores) April 1, 2021
I’ve never had that kind of reaction to a website before.#RavelryAccessibility (2/2)
The Ravelry dark mode rollout didn’t help. I don’t know what it is, and I’m trying to be ok using the site. I don’t want to lose my ability to log on. But it took 2 minutes of scrolling through for the pain behind my eyes to start again.
— laryn on the rocks (@larynmakesstuff) March 24, 2021
These examples are not hard to find.
The corollary to this fallacy, of course, is that if you can't be bothered to change your settings on Ravelry and are still complaining, you're either lazy or a whiner. Or both! But clearly we can see that this isn't true. It's marvellous that the display options which haven't been discontinued do help some people. But there are still many people who simply aren't helped by them.
Fallacy #7: Worst-case scenario, you can always simply use another site
It's true that there are other fibre-related sites and alternatives to some of Ravelry's functionality, many of which actually sprang up in response to all these problems. But bottom line, there is no site out there with the incredible database and search functionality like Ravelry has. There just isn't. Even Ravelry's founders acknowledge this, when they talk about the need for decentralization:
If you are a fiber artist who has interest or experience in decentralization, please take a look at the manifesto in my Rav profile (https://t.co/G31doma3EI) & get in touch if it lights you up!
— Ravelry (@ravelry) May 28, 2021
I know that there must be folks out there & I'd like to make some connections -- Cass
Moreover, this centralization and monopoly extends beyond database functionality and into the fibre-related community features. Test knits, design support, and craft events of varying sizes - including small, large, and seriously major - are either exclusively or primarily hosted on Ravelry.
And even if none of this were true, businesses have a moral obligation to be usable for those who want to use them. Especially a business with the monopoly and massive reach of Ravelry.
There may even be a legal obligation. Admittedly, the related legislation right now is new, thin, and largely untested, but that's changing. Although not every legal decision goes this way, more and more, websites are being seen in the eyes of courts in the United States (where Ravelry operates) as places of public accommodation. As well, legal issues of digital accessibility are becoming increasingly prevalent:
- Websites need to become 'places of public accommodation' under the Americans with Disabilities Act
- Case details: Nat'l Fed'n of the Blind v. Scribd Inc.
- Case details: National Association of the Deaf, et. al. v. Netflix, Inc.
- US Supreme Court allows Ninth Circuit court decision to stand: the ADA and California law applied to Domino’s websites and mobile apps
- Accessible Website? Fines Coming For Noncompliant Orgs
- Federal Website Accessibility Lawsuits Increased in 2020 Despite Mid-Year Pandemic Lull
Even setting aside Ravelry's monopoly on what their site can do, the other thing to remember is that it isn't just a simple case of 'Well, don't go there if it bothers you so much.' Ravelry has now become so prevalent in the fibre world that it is extremely difficult to avoid it, even when you're trying to.
@therealcraftsy Please go through your blog posts and put (Rav link) or something similar before links to ravelry.
— Sarah Bradberry (@Knittingand) January 4, 2021
We can’t see where links go on mobile because you’ve hidden them behind 1/2
Well shit. It's not even noon yet and I'm fighting severe nausea because I clicked on a link in @MalabrigoYarn 's instagram stories that went straight to NuRav. I really hope yarn dyers and designers start at least putting warnings on their links so I don't have to unfollow :-(
— Sandals π³️π (@PumpyTweets) September 30, 2020
Here's what these people don't get. We can't *not* use, as long as there are designers and stores that hid links to ravelry.
— KatieBea (@ktb38) July 9, 2021
Clicking on a link can result in a headache, or migraine. https://t.co/h9DYR1X8rm
I clicked a ravelry link accidentally trying find some info about tdf.
— KatieBea (@ktb38) June 25, 2021
Instant headache.
i accidentally got ravelry'd earlier, from a link that no one involved thought would have any ravelry pages, and I thought i was fine but alas...i appear to not be
— pyrrh: high emprex of excessive git commits ♿ (@pyrrhl) June 3, 2021
I followed a pattern link yesterday found with the #offrav tag only to be taken to the @ravelry website.
— HandmadebyJayneyπ (@MadebyJayney) April 17, 2021
Luckily I shut the page quickly and have been fortunate not to have migraine yet.
Please only use this tag for genuine off Rav patterns/items#RavelryAccessibility
Addendum #2: I do not count online storefronts that link to Ravelry for actually making the purchase.
— Silhelm (@silhelmina) May 10, 2021
Even screenshots of the new design have been reported to negatively impact people. (In fact, there were a lot of really illustrative tweets I didn't feel I could quote in this post because they included NuRav screenshots.)
It would be nice to be able to be safely on Facebook without the fear that someone will post a screenshot and set off the 48 hour migraines that came with the Ravelry Update last year.
— lostchyld (@lostchyld1) March 22, 2021
Agreed. Even in dark mode I find it uncomfortable to use. Then if someone shares a screenshot of the lighter modes my eyes hurt almost immediately. It’s awful.
— Witch Way Wellness (@AlysKaral) July 11, 2021
These are a pair of $800 custom glasses. They're specifically designed to block the blue light spectrum that sets off migraines. Even while wearing these I will get a migraine in under a minute just from a screenshot of Ravelry. pic.twitter.com/yarXJr8WsH
— AetherFang ππ️π΅ (@TaniaRichter) March 21, 2021
Just a screenshot of Rav sent in a message is enough for me to set off a migraine. But it seems that what others have said is true; it's inconvenient for people to walk away on principle so they aren't. And until the money leaves, Ravelry won't do a damn thing about it.
— Jennie Powell π (@OwlAboutYarn) March 1, 2021
Yeah! Or to fill in a survey which has screen shots of the graphics that cause migraines, vertigo etc so people with these issues aren't able to fill it in π
— Kitty ♿⚫️π¦ (@Retro_Kitty79) July 25, 2020
Yo @ravelry I just tried to do your "readability survey" (read: free labour rather than paying a professional consultant) and the screengrabs started messing with my eyes. Again.
— BlueberryMuffinThief (@anon_blueberry) July 9, 2020
You're just not getting it, are you? Or do you really not care?#RavelryAccessibility
Why am I doing something off-Rav? I was hit by a migraine when using the new UI and a headache when responding to their UI survey. Classic Ravelry won’t be around forever. NuRav is not safe for me.
— Natalie Servant (@natalieservant) November 19, 2020
Why did looking at a screenshot of a portion of a Ravelry page in greyscale for a SECOND trigger a twinge in my forehead
— SJ S., Esq. (@sunlightjams) September 22, 2020
Yup. That does explain it, and as a designer and a person who gets migraines that screenshot of the forum text box is BAD. HOLY FUCK BAD. I am all but positive that it would give me a headache if not a full blown migraine to use the actual website in any capacity right now.
— Not ruined, just ruination (@ROCYarnSiren) June 23, 2020
Conclusion
The unspoken implication in all of these fallacies is that there is actually nothing to complain about. But even a cursory examination of the facts demonstrates that this is not the case. The site still puts people at risk for physical harm. And that's why people are still talking about it. The site needs to be fixed so that it can stop hurting people.
Yes, there's anger and frustration coming out in some of the accounts I've included here. And there are a lot of people who at this point are so angry and upset with how badly Ravelry has screwed the pooch on this whole issue, that they wouldn't go back even if it was fully fixed tomorrow. Why? Because when businesses discriminate against segments of their audience and treat them badly, that kills brand loyalty and trust.
The onus is not on the audience to keep sticking around for that kind of treatment. The people being hurt should not be blamed. It is unreasonable to expect them to give lenience and understanding and compassion for a business which harmed them, and then made a conscious decision to keep harming them.
If pointing out that Ravelry did something wrong is impacting their reputation, that's not cruelty towards Ravelry. That's Ravelry experiencing consequences.
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